tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post8663330778552421923..comments2024-01-16T05:48:33.523-05:00Comments on Errata Security: First Internet ecommerce was at least 1990David Maynorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09921229607193067441noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-48650026533677861282015-12-02T04:14:39.824-05:002015-12-02T04:14:39.824-05:00I just remember... in fact, ecommerce is even olde...I just remember... in fact, ecommerce is even older than this and is definitely not "IP based". <br /><br />The most important department stores and supermarkets in France and in Germany where already using Minitel and Bildchirmtext network (X25 based), with an online catalog, payment processing and so on. I used to "go shopping" with my alphabetical keyboard, paying online and waiting for delivery. Banks were also offering account "remote consultation/browsing" (no transactions). And many services were burgeoning (quite a lot with "adult content", but also airline reservation and other information svc like online newspapers). <br /><br />It was circa 1980/1990. <br /><br />I remember well the very first IP host I built, end of 1983, beginning 1984. We all were real bigot at this time. Speaking of ecommerce, money, even mentioning a commercial brand was considered as filthy and disgusting. <br /><br />Indeed, BBS's didn't create the idea of ecommerce. But they gave us some insight on what could be done with the Internet: the online commercial capacity of the Minitel combined with the international dimension of the public network <br /><br /><br />zenographiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17781923958496103141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-80185958406887186462015-12-01T17:19:35.815-05:002015-12-01T17:19:35.815-05:00Yep. I bought flowers online from FTD in 1994 from...Yep. I bought flowers online from FTD in 1994 from a full e-commerce-like storefront. Complete with visuals of flowers, description, prices, and "enter credit card here".<br /><br />And I was by no means the first. You can be sure people on "the Well" or other Bulletin Boards were selling stuff. May not qualify as e-commerce without a storefront, though.Derek Kerton, The Kerton Grouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01698731998444617725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-29730348566727139902015-12-01T17:03:54.410-05:002015-12-01T17:03:54.410-05:00There are many ways to define "e-commerce&quo...There are many ways to define "e-commerce" and "Internet", but I remember purchasing computer equipment from a marketplace operating on top of NNTP in 1989. I had no credit card, payment was with direct bank transfer (so you really had to trust the vendor).<br /><br />Yes there were of course BBS systems doing commerce on top of Fidonet way before that (I was even running a node that carried some of those forums) but that's not "Internet" because it wasn't on top of TCP/IP.pjthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10222012841171277081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-53800859775383673792015-12-01T03:31:19.194-05:002015-12-01T03:31:19.194-05:00Dr Mr Graham
Agreed. The idea itself is even olde...Dr Mr Graham<br /><br />Agreed. The idea itself is even older. I remember buying a licence for Qmodem that I downloaded from a BBS, circa 1984. Most of these shareware development where already sold "online".<br />Security was not an issue: you had to call the developer (no 800 number), give your credit card number, name, exp. date … and he gave you the activation code without verifying the account. That was not really “PCI-DSS friendly”, but trust was the key element in this kind of transaction. <br /><br />:-)zenographiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17781923958496103141noreply@blogger.com