tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post124658590475423678..comments2024-01-16T05:48:33.523-05:00Comments on Errata Security: War on Hackers: a Clear and Present Danger David Maynorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09921229607193067441noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-22207380258072104062015-04-10T10:32:03.452-04:002015-04-10T10:32:03.452-04:00I feel that this topic has been blown way out of p...I feel that this topic has been blown way out of proportion by people who don't understand what it is and don't have any context for it. These are international trade sanctions, not domestic law enforcement powers, and they work the same way that other international trade sanctions work. <br /><br />Here you make an analogy to "asset forfeiture." I've been seeing people in other forums making that parallel, and I presume its inspired by this post. This is absolutely nothing at all like asset forfeiture. This is not something that is administrated by local law enforcement or that would ever by applied domestically or even against foreigners in countries with whom the United States has normal diplomatic relations. <br /><br />You write "It allows the government to bypass due process and seize the assets of anybody suspected of hacking." No, it doesn't. Thats not even close to being a fair characterization of what this is. It allows the government to bypass due process and seize the assets of people who are beyond the reach of due process because they live in countries with whom the United States does not have normal diplomatic relations who are suspected of doing things that are "a significant threat to the national security, foreign policy, or economic health or financial stability of the United States." Thats a very high bar, and that bar cannot be lowered just because they want to, as there are several structural reasons that the bar is that high, including Constitutional due process protections. <br /><br />The government does a lot of stupid things in the realm of information security. They are used to our community reacting negatively to those things. We react that way because we know more then they do about information security and we think they are acting out of ignorance. But they know more than we do about how policy works, and when we overreact to something like this, we sound ignorant to them. We sound like people who overreact to anything, no matter what it is. You tend to ignore people like that. The last thing we need is for government policy makers to decide that they should just ignore our community's outrage because it is rooted in ignorance.@_decius_https://www.blogger.com/profile/07880237225381932278noreply@blogger.com