tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post1311547207368852330..comments2024-01-16T05:48:33.523-05:00Comments on Errata Security: I was just detained by the TSADavid Maynorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09921229607193067441noreply@blogger.comBlogger79125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-17540139473813155412014-01-29T08:59:21.806-05:002014-01-29T08:59:21.806-05:00of note: early in the comments you mention the TSA...of note: early in the comments you mention the TSA page saying its ok to take pictures:http://www.tsa.gov/blog/2009/03/can-i-take-photos-at-checkpoint-and.html <br />however that url delivers a 404 so I guess they DON'T want you to know about the legality of taking pictures.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10981245718029924967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-57904251537540856982012-08-01T17:06:55.452-04:002012-08-01T17:06:55.452-04:00And this is exactly why I have my phone set to aut...And this is exactly why I have my phone set to auto-upload every photo and video I take to my DropBox account.Nikkinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-64981584533352716642010-12-13T12:54:18.422-05:002010-12-13T12:54:18.422-05:00Thanks for posting that phone number. I'm goin...Thanks for posting that phone number. I'm going to keep it handy for when I go through that area, just in case.bwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14184838605895449028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-32858132421678288872010-12-02T09:41:57.379-05:002010-12-02T09:41:57.379-05:00Be fore all this high fangled scanners come along ...Be fore all this high fangled scanners come along I fly a few times with my 2 daughters. About 2 years ago we were at the airport with my husband who was therr to help me through the sercerity check and to get to the gate. I was holding my 1 year old Chey and as we get to the scanner they told me i had to take off my Chey's open toed sandels. I was like "what!?" Trying to do stuff one handed is tough enough. Then we go throug to scanner and was told to walk over to the side. So me and Chey go over to the side and sit down while they find a woman TSA. My husband was looking at me mouthing whats going on. I shook my head. Then when she finally came over she wanted to pat my 1 year old down. she checked her diaper, her chest and belly. Then she wanted to take a look in the diaper bag. I had to throw away a clear bottle room tempature water for the formula for the other daughter. But the funny thing is through all that scanning process and manual search they didnt find that i had a pocket knife in my purse. (I didnt even know it was in there). After I met back up with my husband i tols him that we were never flying again, except to fly back home. Now we drive 12 hours to Texas.Melanie Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18290276564066941071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-36688257828933465402010-11-29T22:12:19.661-05:002010-11-29T22:12:19.661-05:00Jerry Estes, Headland High School Class of '64...Jerry Estes, Headland High School Class of '64 - http://www.cybermal.com/headland/classof64.htm, jerry.estes@tsa.dot.gov. Also mentioned for possibly failing to disclose evidence in discrimination case Whitby v. Chertoff - http://is.gd/hYi6Pzentinalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14625071226394147877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-73912124650869099582010-11-28T03:28:19.835-05:002010-11-28T03:28:19.835-05:00Slightly confused by your comment about Meg McLean...Slightly confused by your comment about Meg McLean escalating the issue. Seems pretty close to your experience, in that she wanted the TSA to follow their own policies.<br /><br />Perhaps she was more animated than you, and even more angry than you were... Fact is, she had a right to be angry, as did you.<br /><br />It appears to me that TSA plans on punishing anyone who resists their actions, even when those resisting are following the TSA rules.<br /><br />Imagine being held in a glass closet for 45 minutes, without your shoes, displayed for everyone to see... Humiliating and an effective lesson for everyone else to see. Behave or else you could end up in the box.Dscoduchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12693584734657822545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-38714988916305689382010-11-28T02:00:01.890-05:002010-11-28T02:00:01.890-05:00Somebody needs to make a decoy iphone Photos app t...Somebody needs to make a decoy iphone Photos app that pretends to erase photos.Andi Baritchihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17513081942793368735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-13429767821854593352010-11-27T20:38:03.864-05:002010-11-27T20:38:03.864-05:00@crabapple - I don't know what airport is the ...@crabapple - I don't know what airport is the one in question here, but the airport in my town is Public Property run by an airport commission that is appointed by the Governor. I don't think anybody could argue it was private property. (Sarasota, Fl).Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11244603343937074933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-80480306279183976622010-11-27T19:50:44.356-05:002010-11-27T19:50:44.356-05:00Technically and Constitutionally, members of the J...Technically and Constitutionally, members of the Judiciary can only "hold their Offices during good Behavior;" therefore, an accountability process is implied to punish "bad Behavior." Since all office holders are accountable, ultimately, to the public, so are members of the Judiciary.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15235394151236256649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-38740884085163342362010-11-26T08:51:32.753-05:002010-11-26T08:51:32.753-05:00The worst thing about this entire experience is th...The worst thing about this entire experience is the TSA nit-wit that thinks an acceptable response is that the TSA is not accountable.<br /><br />That is borderline psychotic, to me.John Longhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531896022463552269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-43461723988828767752010-11-26T07:47:22.540-05:002010-11-26T07:47:22.540-05:00Look at the TSA's new seal! (NSFW)Look at the TSA's <a href="http://www.eyesalt.net/image/tsa-pedobear" rel="nofollow">new seal!</a> (NSFW)Andres N. Kievskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00265331700609152907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-50630603316184518392010-11-25T19:45:55.213-05:002010-11-25T19:45:55.213-05:00First off, I would like to make it clear I am in n...First off, I would like to make it clear I am in no way supporting the TSA. I think the machine is degrading and useless; however, the TSA had every right to detain you. While taking pictures is legal, taking pictures of a security check point makes you suspicious. Seeing as TSA's machine cannot YET read minds they do not know your intent. As an example, the wearing of a ski mask is not illegal, but if you wear one at 2 am outside a 7-11 is it unreasonable for law enforcement to detain you? An arrest, in this case, would have been unreasonable but detaining you was legal and with probable cause. I agree with your methods and what you did; however, just be aware that even with a lawyer present you would have been detained just as long. Also this machine is flash to shut the politicians up. Anyone in a position of power in the anti terrorist realm knows this machine won't stop most terrorists. That is why we have the air marshals and the under cover agents walking the air ports. Keep fighting the good fight sir.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15508480450638494916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-76458267037033320512010-11-25T11:09:09.935-05:002010-11-25T11:09:09.935-05:00Nail clippers are still being confiscated...
http:...Nail clippers are still being confiscated...<br />http://nation.foxnews.com/tsa/2010/11/21/tsa-allows-soldiers-carry-weapons-not-nail-clippersPete Austinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09727564294762127967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-48163449977854012372010-11-25T04:42:06.516-05:002010-11-25T04:42:06.516-05:00Technically the answer is between "no" a...Technically the answer is between "no" and "maybe" when it comes to taking pictures in an Airport. Because you are on "private" property. And there are no civil rights protections against taking pictures in such an instance. You can take pictures, The typical "family" photo kind of photo taking. But if you stray from that? as you obviously did? You have to comply.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15584327687278265734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-48492711633847208812010-11-25T03:09:09.619-05:002010-11-25T03:09:09.619-05:00Unless TSA agents are iPhone savvy, you can use a ...Unless TSA agents are iPhone savvy, you can use a camera app that maintains a separate "light-box" or "camera roll" while auto-saving to the regular photo library. Then you can delete as you like while having copies in the suspended camera app.<br /><br />Happy Turkey Day!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10929297272774874247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-86290139593461407672010-11-25T02:39:15.108-05:002010-11-25T02:39:15.108-05:00Just use Dropbox's feature that auto-uploads y...Just use Dropbox's feature that auto-uploads your photos to the cloud as you take them.<br /><br />Not sure how the TSA would react to being told that, however.<br /><br />(PS: 45,000 die every year in the US in road accidents. Surely, if this were actually about safety and saving lives, the TSA would be screening drivers, not fliers!!)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14507358336271892252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-11566998205237913802010-11-25T02:24:25.049-05:002010-11-25T02:24:25.049-05:00what did you accomplish?
well, you forced them to...what did you accomplish?<br /><br />well, you forced them to be aware of their own stated policies.<br />you demonstrated that they do not have the absolute authority that they think they do.<br />you displayed the integrity and courage of the informed citizen.<br />and you let them know, in no uncertain terms, however calmly and rationally, that dissent and terrorism are two completely different things.<br /><br />all these are utterly valuable. i wish more people had the audacity to do likewise.bete-noirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10653958153357992880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-2656570355385961412010-11-25T02:10:28.372-05:002010-11-25T02:10:28.372-05:00Another example of the weakest link in the TSA equ...Another example of the weakest link in the TSA equation. The screeners themselves. Clearly these people understand neither the letter nor the intent of the regulations concerning the images produced by the scanners.<br /><br />The images that must not be saved and/or leave the area, are those of passengers inside the scanner as seen by the TSA agents on their monitors.<br /><br />This of course has nothing to do with photos taken by you unless of course they were stupid enough to have the scanner monitors in plain view of passengers so they might have been in a shot? (which indeed would be a violation of the regulations on their part). The entire group of agents were collectively too stupid to comprehend the application of the rules. <br /><br />The real problem here isn't the devices. It's the all too common, former security guards, lacking the qualifications (literacy, training and temperament) to properly perform the job.Joe 2.0https://www.blogger.com/profile/00520982164839460914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-6952862321103635912010-11-25T01:14:04.486-05:002010-11-25T01:14:04.486-05:00@lasvegasgamer
You chose to submit to a device th...@lasvegasgamer<br /><br /><b>You chose to submit to a device that many scientists believe poses a risk to your health. </b><br /><br />Different device. There are two systems in use, one which uses microwaves (harmless), one of which uses x-rays (potentially harmful). I walked through the microwave one.<br /><br /><b>why be forced to submit in such a humiliating way to an agent of the government? </b><br /><br />Why choose to be humiliated by the treatment of government officials? I'm interested in rights, not insults. I got angry because that lady claimed the TSA was above accountability, not because she was abusive (although she was abusive).<br /><br /><b>You deleted photos you knew you had a right to take. Why? Eventually giving in to the TSA agents justs fuels their argument that we're simply trying to "disrupt their operating procedures".</b> (paraphrased)<br /><br />Good point. Mostly because I was bored. Also, because by forcing me to delete it, they crossed another line -- they destroyed something that belonged to me.<br /><br /><b>Calling your fellow citizens who remain vigilant of all of our rights douche bags accomplishes nothing.</b><br /><br />I disagree.<br /><br />I see fellow travelers that take offense at the most reasonable of requests. I see activists provoke the TSA because they are angry, not because they are standing up for principle.<br /><br />A good example is that Meg McLean incident. She wasn't treated badly, she deliberately escalated the situation.<br /><br />I don't want to be lumped in with those people. I want people to know that I was calm, polite, and cooperative -- except for the principle I was standing up for (that I could take pictures to keep the TSA accountable to the public).Robert Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09879238874208877740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-78185648569065183692010-11-25T01:01:47.692-05:002010-11-25T01:01:47.692-05:00s/plan/plane/s/plan/plane/Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10375593123065547364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-20041897474678464392010-11-25T00:50:41.331-05:002010-11-25T00:50:41.331-05:00My favorite line that iterates the stupidity and b...My favorite line that iterates the stupidity and blatant disregard for policy, rules, and law is this:<br /><br />TSA: Not all parts of the government are accountable to the public, especially the TSA.TruTricks - Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15804878913967846086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-87058226436232128542010-11-25T00:21:51.462-05:002010-11-25T00:21:51.462-05:00Not to be pedantic, but this is false. The federal...<b>Not to be pedantic, but this is false. The federal judiciary--a branch of the federal government--is NOT politically accountable. That's the whole point of an independent judiciary.</b><br /><br />Stoopid pedanists. :) Independence of the central bank also pretty important.<br /><br />Let's limit this to "all government" to "all parts of the executive branch and congress".<br /><br />While the military, intelligence, police, and security services often have secrets, they are also the most common source of corrupt abuses, and therefore, require the most scrutiny by the public.Robert Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09879238874208877740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-50540417810414512792010-11-25T00:11:08.403-05:002010-11-25T00:11:08.403-05:00sometimes when you argue with an idiot, it's h...<b>sometimes when you argue with an idiot, it's hard for an observer to tell the difference.</b><br /><br />Sometimes ad hominem attacks reflect worse on the speaker than the target.<br /><br /><br /><b>but honestly, what did you accomplish?</b><br /><br />Nothing that I know of.<br /><br />But standing up for your honor and rights isn't about accomplishing anything.<br /><br />I didn't go into this trying to antagonize the TSA. They had been shouting for a couple seconds before I realized those shouts were directed at me. I wasn't trying to accomplish anything in particular.Robert Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09879238874208877740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-20893454052737680262010-11-25T00:05:50.544-05:002010-11-25T00:05:50.544-05:00Why are you re-posting the canadianfreepress blog ...<b>Why are you re-posting the canadianfreepress blog post about alleged TSA documents. That is clearly a fake story invented by a right-wing blogger. A real lover of freedom would post such a scurrilous memo; until he does, it is abhorrent rumor-mongering.</b><br /><br />Excellent comment, I'll edit it to include that the source is not trustworthy.<br /><br />But I've worked with law enforcement and the FBI for a long time (in the realm of cybersecurity). Regardless of how the Canadian Press spins the issue, it's the truth. One of the FBI's job is to track the ring leaders of any sort of domestic disturbance. It doesn't matter if they are the KKK or Martin Luther King, the FBI kept tabs on them.<br /><br />I've also been on the other side. I've personally been threatened by the FBI in attempt to cancel a speech they didn't like. It's not some sort of grand conspiracy, it was really the result of bumbling stupid agents, but nonetheless, I know that the motives of the FBI aren't pure.<br /><br />I'm certainly not on their short least of ring leaders, like the guy who created "Opt Out Day", but I'm probably on a longer list somewhere.Robert Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09879238874208877740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-53873406595305881712010-11-24T23:33:42.547-05:002010-11-24T23:33:42.547-05:00Way to go brother glad you didn't back downWay to go brother glad you didn't back downbenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12552347165012054052noreply@blogger.com