tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post3429528229345169517..comments2024-01-16T05:48:33.523-05:00Comments on Errata Security: NSA is wrong, not evilDavid Maynorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09921229607193067441noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-27650848887257173752013-07-06T14:22:01.584-04:002013-07-06T14:22:01.584-04:00The ethics of PRISM can be put in terms of lying, ...The ethics of PRISM can be put in terms of lying, as evinced by Robert Clapper, Director of Intelligence at the NSA, before Congress. Kant’s critique of lying can shed light on whether Clapper should have lied. If he should not have, what are the implications for the republic from the compromised democratic accountability? See "The NSA Goes to Congress: Kant on Lying as Unethical" http://www.thewordenreport.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-nsa-goes-to-congress-on-ethics-of.htmlDr. Wordenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02867414605883311000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-56510566417822988182013-07-02T12:52:52.894-04:002013-07-02T12:52:52.894-04:00OmG...OmG...Dárvini Aranes Fookhttp://aphonsos.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-12705930740966053932013-06-21T17:44:45.677-04:002013-06-21T17:44:45.677-04:00No NSA is evil I knowNo NSA is evil I knowAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-77112538899009344342013-06-13T18:06:56.043-04:002013-06-13T18:06:56.043-04:00http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/dianne-feins...http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/dianne-feinstein-nsa-92760.html<br /><br />The NSA does not need a court order to search the database it maintains of the call data surrendered by the nation’s telecommunications firms, Senate Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein told reporters on Thursday.Marconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-39184461900332047832013-06-12T13:58:33.333-04:002013-06-12T13:58:33.333-04:00I have a hard time believing you that the phone re...I have a hard time believing you that the phone records are divorced from identity. What use are they when divorced from identity? How can they develop social network models without identities? This doesn't make sense and you don't support this with anything here.1d3nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00644602074973817702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-61472534816664985072013-06-10T18:37:10.679-04:002013-06-10T18:37:10.679-04:00Perhaps you feel you’ve got nothing to hide and th...Perhaps you feel you’ve got nothing to hide and that a tiny increase in US security is worth your loss of privacy?<br /><br />That’s the wrong question. The right question is: What data is being collecting about me, what conclusions are are being made from it, and how can I correct wrong data?<br /><br />Example: The credit reporting agencies are required to tell you what data they collect and allow you to correct it because they make many errors that routinely deny credit to innocent people. Prior to the federal laws requiring credit reports, people who were denied the purchase of car or home had no way to find out why!<br /><br />Do you think the feds will be any more accurate about the collection and evaluation of data about you than a credit reporting agency? They are collecting 3 BILLION pieces of information a day (according to one report) and if they evaluate that data correctly 99.9999% of the time, then they will be WRONG 30,000 times a day.<br /><br />So; what if the next time you try to fly home for Christmas you find you are on the Do Not Fly list? And you have no way to find out why or to correct it…<br /><br />So: what if your company hosts a website of interest to the NSA and it gets labeled a concern of state security (think Nixon and his now famous list) and the NSA tells the FBI that you are a ‘person of interest’ but not why? And again you have no idea that this is happened and no way of knowing how this will impact your life. Will you lose a job? Not qualify for a home loan?<br /><br />Please take this up with your representatives now – or lose the right to do so forever.<br /><br />Brian Pearce<br />Los Angeles<br />(you know my number already)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-90892958988581430912013-06-10T03:07:10.929-04:002013-06-10T03:07:10.929-04:00I'm concerned about the extreme lengths that I...I'm concerned about the extreme lengths that I've seen people go to in order to rationalize the statement that Clapper made, which is plainly false. <br /><br />The conclusion that there is, actually, a problem here is a much easier one to reach than the complicated reaching that I've seen. <br /><br />The people who work in the NSA are certainly not evil, but they may be constructing something which could be used for evil by other people in the future, and may have been used for evil in the isolated cases in the past. The question is, what prevents that from happening, and the answer is effective political oversight. <br /><br />That political oversight is not possible if the NSA doesn't feel that it needs to obey acts of Congress (which was Bush's position) or doesn't feel that it needs to be honest in official hearings, which appears to be Obama's position. <br /><br />That is the problem, and if we let the intel community off the hook for it, the people will loose control over them, and if the people loose control over them, we loose control of the country. Tom Crosshttp://www.memestreams.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-41575198354971918382013-06-10T00:45:27.874-04:002013-06-10T00:45:27.874-04:00This makes some points. I agree that painting an a...This makes some points. I agree that painting an agency as "evil" gets us nowhere; the whole system is rotted, what with campaign finance, the revolving door, the other influences of corproations, the Terrorist Threat ideologies and propaganda (it's because we have military presences in 74 nations, stupid), apathetic culture, and bigots. We should juxtapose this article next to Glenn Greenwald's 2012 talk on how the surveillance state itself is the problem (not just individuals, not just individual policies) and what we can do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCj7SmjSsGwJoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16026030959430517467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-76455773166997991782013-06-09T22:52:27.405-04:002013-06-09T22:52:27.405-04:00"The highest priority at the NSA is avoiding ...<i>"The highest priority at the NSA is avoiding infringing on citizen’s rights. I know none of you will believe me, but it’s true. I’m regularly astonished by the degree to which they bend over backwards to protect American’s privacy. The more you delve in the phone metadata and PRISM details, the more you’ll find these extreme measures the NSA takes to avoid infringing on the privacy of Americans."</i><br /><br />You're right, I don't believe you. The NSA was well-known even during the late 90s to never delete anything and given the amount of data stored at that time, I shudder to think what's being stored now. It's the complete anti-thesis of selective monitoring.<br /><br />Even if your assertion was correct, it would only apply to US citizens being monitored by US agencies and ignores that other governments may happily do that monitoring on behalf of the US, e.g. GCHQ.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />allicientnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-28890856764775955122013-06-09T22:12:59.201-04:002013-06-09T22:12:59.201-04:00I'm pretty sure that Edward Snowden just infer...I'm pretty sure that Edward Snowden just inferred that everything in accessible by name. It's called metadata, and this is what makes the intelligence gathering work, especially when persistent storage is used. Your views about government feelings on privacy indicate that you have not worked in any militarized branch. Mission first; therefore, privacy second.David Lockheedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15643514819578736217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-25903566953884335962013-06-09T21:11:59.649-04:002013-06-09T21:11:59.649-04:00Who the hell ever said the rank and file are the e...Who the hell ever said the rank and file are the enemy? <br /><br />No one.<br /><br />It's like Ayn Rand once said about Nazi concentration camp guards. The fact that one brings flowers to his mother on Mother's Day doesn't make him any less evil.<br /><br />It's the SYSTEM that is evil.<br /><br />And yes, I mean evil (even though I don't usually qualify things as "good" or "evil" since those terms imply some sort of moral code, which I don't believe in.)<br /><br />The purpose of these systems is to increase government power over its citizens for the pure purpose of power. Period. End of story. <br /><br />It's NOT just "being corrupted". The people who put these systems in place, more specifically the people who order such systems to be put in place, are people who are interested in POWER - not "protecting America" or any of that patriotic crap.<br /><br />Sorry, your article is precisely not one that helps understand the situation.Richard Steven Hackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11442679694828421982noreply@blogger.com