tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post7828745148824567961..comments2024-01-16T05:48:33.523-05:00Comments on Errata Security: Independent reporting of #OccupyWallStreetDavid Maynorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09921229607193067441noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-3386646171377869972011-11-03T15:55:43.234-04:002011-11-03T15:55:43.234-04:00A guy with the handle "1N2U3M4B5E6R7S" t...A guy with the handle "1N2U3M4B5E6R7S" two comments back criticizes the fact that I do comment-moderation. The reason I do this is because of spam, so I let the next spam message through to demonstrate an example. The blog will be filled with comments like that if I did not have comment-moderation turned on.<br /><br />Except for spam or obvious trolls, I don't block comments. I even allow douchebag comments, like the ones from 1N2U3M4B5E6R7S, who can neither spell "hypocrisy" nor use it correctly in a sentence (just because you don't like something doesn't automatically make it hypocrisy).Robert Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09879238874208877740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-66260033557958489832011-11-03T03:34:51.200-04:002011-11-03T03:34:51.200-04:00masaj koltuğu
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For example, the basic blantant contradiction of using means of social meadia (created and promoted by corporations) to protest corpoations! Or. For instance the 99% vs. 1% You realize this is a global anti-semitic chant right? Dig deeper and you will see this movement DOES have plenty of funding. (check out Adbusters.com scrubbed website) OH wait, that's also completely ignoring the recent news of your pro socialist, communal protesters refusing to handout some of THEIR food to the homeless who have flocked to those WITH while they are WITHOUT! The hypocracy of humans shouldn't surpirse me anymore. I'm sorry. Put your heads snuggly back up there.1N2U3M4B5E6R7Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01801599925664570936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-17123739875027295302011-11-02T10:15:40.993-04:002011-11-02T10:15:40.993-04:00Get your head out of your ass! you seem to be glo...Get your head out of your ass! you seem to be glossing over certain ascpects of the protests that you disagree with. For example, the basic blantant contradiction of using means of social meadia (created and promoted by corporations) to protest corpoations! Or. For instance the 99% vs. 1% You realize this is a global anti-semitic chant right? Dig deeper and you will see this movement DOES have plenty of funding. (check out Adbusters.com scrubbed website) OH wait, that's also completely ignoring the recent news of your pro socialist, communal protesters refusing to handout some of THEIR food to the homeless who have flocked to those WITH while they are WITHOUT! The hypocracy of humans shouldn't surpirse me anymore. I'm sorry. Put your heads snuggly back up there.1N2U3M4B5E6R7Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01801599925664570936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-48225052431737914042011-10-20T12:57:10.287-04:002011-10-20T12:57:10.287-04:00what Robert described as "people's microp...what Robert described as "people's microphone" is basically a form of networking, called Mesh Networking.<br />details at http://daihinia.com/aboutvvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08261395144377516287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-2872053466818963622011-10-19T14:49:45.226-04:002011-10-19T14:49:45.226-04:00Great post. I learned so much more from your post ...Great post. I learned so much more from your post than from all of the other "sources of information." Fantastic reporting.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02386250179310018705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-36462536887533311102011-10-19T03:18:06.999-04:002011-10-19T03:18:06.999-04:00I think if a word was not spoken by any one in any...I think if a word was not spoken by any one in any city the point of silence would reflect that there is a primary problem in our country. Not rich kids reacting to no jobs,or angry young people with no direction home,but more importantly the overall financial problem in this country has morphed to a point where there are no imminent solutions. That would,IMO,really bring the wrath onto Wall St and the politicos who keep the wheels of a runaway train greased with no option for a viable solution. Then the general populous would reflect the problems thru the election process.Player Downhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09391135506825347319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-20995778855412072912011-10-16T16:08:31.326-04:002011-10-16T16:08:31.326-04:00When you say that in the future "this organiz...When you say that in the future "this organization model will become a blueprint for protests years from now," do you think that once there is a "blueprint", it's totally different from this organic evolution we're seeing? There can only be one first time, then it's all different. Now, solutions are arriving on the fly as problems arise. That's the beauty and excitement that gives such power to this moment IMO.brain activisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15985408332113878674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-72368209516849695672011-10-14T18:08:59.998-04:002011-10-14T18:08:59.998-04:00Ralph,
Libertarians can be quite funny. We've...Ralph,<br /><br />Libertarians can be quite funny. We've successfully infiltrated all parts of the system through our skill in blending in, by looking and sounding like everyone else. That includes the ability to crack jokes.Robert Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09879238874208877740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-56364132220893988342011-10-14T13:42:35.816-04:002011-10-14T13:42:35.816-04:00I love this post. I nearly fell off my chair when ...I love this post. I nearly fell off my chair when you said you are a Libertarian! You are funny! Libertarians are not funny, they are earnest, deadly, deadly dull and earnest, like accountants. <br />Are you sure you are really a Libertarian? There was another Libertarian on here and his post sounded like the real thing, the world is not nice or loving, etc. <br /><br />A great piece of writing!ralphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02506351741813121585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-25049867468711052162011-10-12T21:16:17.213-04:002011-10-12T21:16:17.213-04:00I think the "leaderless" is itself a myt...I think the "leaderless" is itself a myth. There's a separate central circle, policed by a security squad. The 99ers website was created June 2010. Add that to the reporting.<br /><br />http://socraticgadfly.blogspot.com/2011/10/more-proof-occupywallstreet-has-ows.htmlGadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13075757287807731373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-4366764978068948682011-10-12T09:26:37.782-04:002011-10-12T09:26:37.782-04:00OT: solar-joe the point was not that "it'...OT: solar-joe the point was not that "it's all about war" (and how the heck is this, even though it's not my claim, _uncivil?_) but that there is a longstanding cooperation between government and commerce. Government takes on projects that no private entity could sustainably do. The breakthroughs are made and later the private sector monetizes the innovation.Colonel Nikolaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08580281432776550606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-46981857080125433392011-10-11T21:54:05.604-04:002011-10-11T21:54:05.604-04:00When I was researching parallel processor behavior...When I was researching parallel processor behavior at Bell Labs way back in 1983 we found that giving too much responsibility to a central managing processor resulted in lower efficiency. We also found that giving too much responsibility to the parallel sub-processors resulted in lower efficiency. It turns out that the greatest computational efficiency was attained when the central processor performed limited high level planning and the low level parallel processors performed number crunching sub-tasks selected by the the manager. Both extremes were inferior. A compromise moderate solution was best.<br /><br />I think the Federal govt control vs local businesses and individuals are analogous. I realize this does not have the sex appeal of an extremist view like Ron Paul's "abolish the Fed" or the left's "abandon capitalism". But if your interested in real data, the data seems to indicate what we have now is best. We just need to fine tune it.<br /><br />Civility note 1; The tea party is not racist, although I do disagree with them on 90% of their views. <br /><br />civility note 2; If you want you can link just about anything to war; foot powder, bread, tires, meatloaf, refrigerators, plastic, lumber, toilet paper, stairs, eyeglasses, underwear, paint, pencils, shoes, balloons, bookshelves,....<br /><br />Capitalism may be cruel, but to say it is not a major facilitator of innovation is silly. Many communist systems pushed for aggressive technological development to facilitate war also but things did not work out very well.solar-joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09814334689465648131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-9949768084710160892011-10-11T11:00:57.853-04:002011-10-11T11:00:57.853-04:00http://groobiecat.blogspot.com/2011/10/tea-party-v...http://groobiecat.blogspot.com/2011/10/tea-party-vs-occupywallstreet-party.html<br /><br />"There were other factors that fueled the Tea Party, including the inherent racism of the movement."<br /><br />The logic is so simple here, I have to wonder if the people who keep repeating this mantra know they are lying. Just because the President is black, doesn't mean it's because he's black. It's because he's President. If Clinton were elected, would that make them inherently sexist? While many of the placards were hateful and tasteless, there have been hateful and tasteless against expressions against every president. When Bush was in office they largely came from protesters on the left. When Obama became President they largely came from protesters of the right. There is no need to wonder why a group of right-leaning protesters would be more aggressive against a left-leaning President. Even though both Bush and Obama supported the bailouts, they disagreed with Obama on even more issues, such as guns and health care. That, and it was simply passage of time -- the movement had grown larger. If the Tea Party were inherently racist, there would be numerous clear examples of them making unabashed statements about race. Being so large, and under such scrutiny, they wouldn't able to hide such communications. Yet there is no such evidence. So the argument -- that they must be racist because there is no other explanation why some unsophisticated and angry people might do unsophisticated and angry things -- seems nothing but a dishonest rationalization for name-calling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-46799937955796649992011-10-10T14:41:34.126-04:002011-10-10T14:41:34.126-04:00I enjoyed your account. It is worthwhile. Keep doi...I enjoyed your account. It is worthwhile. Keep doing it.<br /><br />But I sincerely question the claim you make regarding how wall street made all this technology possible, etc, etc. It's libertarian mythology of magical markets.<br /><br />Most of the "high-technology" and the computer industry itself that allowed for this technology to come into being was made possible by the government making war with money from taxes, paid for by you and me. This isn't recent, either. Its what we've been doing for 5000 years at least. You should consider that coins were first invented to pay soldiers.<br /><br />But more recently: Integrated circuits, high-speed data communications, the Internet itself were all from government sponsored programs to aid in the waging of war.<br /><br />Not that business had nothing to do with it: they certainly play a role. But there is a longstanding cooperation where the government tests things and tries things and later businesses come along to monetize it. It is not and never has been a pure system, sorry, it really undermines the libertarian myth.Colonel Nikolaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08580281432776550606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-31816880627718991042011-10-10T10:44:16.589-04:002011-10-10T10:44:16.589-04:00Very interesting to get a first person account. Th...Very interesting to get a first person account. Thanks for the info Rob.<br /><br />It seems one problem with the occupation narrative is there is no narrative. You can't blame the press entirely the confusion. Presumably these people are advocating for a more even distribution of wealth which usually means tax code changes. But instead they are whining and advocating childish ideas about abandoning capitalism. They do a disservice to themselves and all those who are suffering. What do they expect to accomplish here - nothing. <br /><br />A lot of people are unemployed and suffering they don't know who to blame. Wall Street can take some blame; so can individuals who fail to adapt to changing market conditions. I wanted to study history in college but I knew it was not needed in the job market so I studied engineering. I read history as a hobby.<br /><br />In my work I see a lot of unemployed fathers. Everything was great when they made tons of money in the trades when construction was booming. 9 out 10 of them saved nothing and borrowed heavily to buy big houses, cars, boats and jet skis. Now invariably they attribute their unemployment to various conspiracy theories involving Wall Street and the politicians. I try to talk to them about learning new skills that are more in demand. It falls on deaf ears. These are good hard working people but they are not life long learners. They seem to feel that they are owed a living working as a carpenter or sheet rock installer because that is what they have always done. Its sad; they, their children and families suffer the stresses of poverty. In a free market the whole idea is to adapt to change. The human cost of failing to do so is high. <br /><br />I see these people every day. It is very difficult to help someone who is focused on blaming others.<br /><br />note 1; The chant from the 1968 democratic convention in Chicago was "The whole world is watching" (via TV network news)<br /><br />note 2; doesn't matter who installed the fiber optic cable.If it had been installed by slaves would that mean they couldn't protest slavery? The point is better stated - capitalist allocate capital wisely, and all benefit from the results.solar-joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09814334689465648131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-17142470794072626592011-10-10T09:53:43.226-04:002011-10-10T09:53:43.226-04:00Mythmaker said...
" We do not need to &...Mythmaker said...<br /><br /> <br /> " We do not need to "take down the banks" or "take down wall street."<br /> What we need is the rule of law, specific bankers, hedge fund managers and politicians need to be held accountable for the laws that have been broken."<br /><br />Please note that this in fact would be 'taking down the ...',<br />in the same sense that removing the nobility's 'rights' and privileges would be taking the nobility.<br /><br />If we ever got to a point where Wall St lived under something approximating the laws that the other 99.9% live under, that would be an immense take-down.Barry DeCiccohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04735814736387033844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-58600338205952354942011-10-09T18:03:10.669-04:002011-10-09T18:03:10.669-04:00Great piece... I learned more from this bit of new...Great piece... I learned more from this bit of news and analysis than any place else... congrats.Michael J. Fitzgeraldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09840859418177870381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-83992336157738809072011-10-09T17:58:01.019-04:002011-10-09T17:58:01.019-04:00Tear down this Wall St!Tear down this Wall St!Deprimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17311647348566131702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-63344214522754951422011-10-09T15:30:59.514-04:002011-10-09T15:30:59.514-04:00As a member of a local occupy group I stumbled on ...As a member of a local occupy group I stumbled on this post when looking for other people blogging about the movement. I found your article to be insightful, intelligent, and englightening. There were so many things that you accurately point out as flaws, and that we need to work on. Thank you for your cricitcism, and for your credit. I plan on sharing this post with the other members of occupy Athens Georgia.Taterloyydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09732834078213281916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-63769790380298113342011-10-09T14:03:08.278-04:002011-10-09T14:03:08.278-04:00"In much the same way, they don’t mention the..."In much the same way, they don’t mention the racial makeup of the Occupation because it doesn’t fit their narrative."<br />Well, from your own reporting we learn that they are very loving. It seems a safe bet, then, that they are not racists,though they are predominately white.<br />You imply here that anyone owning some personal property, laptops, phones etc has no right to protest on behalf of the poor, that they should be happy with their lot in life since somehow they managed to snag some electronics and that they have no business criticizing illegal, unethical and/ or immoral behavior on Wall Street because Wall Street does good things. All of this is nonsensical.Further, I wouldn't credit Wall St. too much in having funded start-ups, it was the people investing who did the funding, not some executives who work on Wall St. who invested their own money.<br />You somehow managed to mist the tea partiers that are there, as well as the Ron Paul supporters (!). Some 'reporting. You had a story YOU wanted to tell, and then went and found it. Who is hey cares what the park owners have to say? What they say tells us nothing about this movement nor the protesters other than they are protesting in a park.<br />Strange how you think people defending or supporting "the people" are tyrants. I guess you really do mean to see every man for himself, even against the oligarchy. Which must mean, you defend the oligarchy from the people. At least you kept it polite here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-57658527953508042192011-10-09T13:42:12.433-04:002011-10-09T13:42:12.433-04:00Great post.
Minor correction: It's the "...Great post. <br /><br />Minor correction: It's the "Democratic Party", not "Democrat party."<br /><br />Democratic is the adjective usage, even in proper nouns like the party name, and Democrat is the noun (He is a Democrat, a member of the Democratic Party).<br /><br />Sujalsujalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01949584511940705424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-55787938737747283202011-10-09T01:00:09.886-04:002011-10-09T01:00:09.886-04:00"The regular people never got a bailout, and ..."The regular people never got a bailout, and no that's not what they are asking for here"<br /><br />Excuse me? Total forgiveness of all debt is NOT a bailout? When did that happen?Sir Lags Alothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00680470067634669582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37798047.post-6755809097184381292011-10-08T21:10:47.944-04:002011-10-08T21:10:47.944-04:00Ivy,
Well, I was being a bit disingenuous, as the...Ivy,<br /><br />Well, I was being a bit disingenuous, as the split is really 1/3 each for Democrat, Republican, and Independent. Here is a link to the <a href="http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/partisan_trends" rel="nofollow">2011 Rasmussen Poll</a>.<br /><br />I know you think you are being in the interests of the 99%, but that's like that famous joke about Boy Scout helping the old lady across he street, where the punch line is that old lady didn't want to go. Not all of the 99% you claim to represent want to go in your direction.Robert Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09879238874208877740noreply@blogger.com