Friday, June 14, 2019

Censorship vs. the memes

The most annoying thing in any conversation is when people drop a meme bomb, some simple concept they've heard elsewhere in a nice package that they really haven't thought through, which takes time and nuance to rebut. These memes are often bankrupt of any meaning.

When discussing censorship, which is wildly popular these days, people keep repeating these same memes to justify it:
  • you can't yell fire in a crowded movie theater
  • but this speech is harmful
  • Karl Popper's Paradox of Tolerance
  • censorship/free-speech don't apply to private organizations
  • Twitter blocks and free speech
This post takes some time to discuss these memes, so I can refer back to it later, instead of repeating the argument every time some new person repeats the same old meme.

You can't yell fire in a crowded movie theater

This phrase was first used in the Supreme Court decision Schenck v. United States to justify outlawing protests against the draft. Unless you also believe the government can jail you for protesting the draft, then the phrase is bankrupt of all meaning.

In other words, how can it be used to justify the thing you are trying to censor and yet be an invalid justification for censoring those things (like draft protests) you don't want censored?

What this phrase actually means is that because it's okay to suppress one type of speech, it justifies censoring any speech you want. Which means all censorship is valid. If that's what you believe, just come out and say "all censorship is valid".

But this speech is harmful or invalid

That's what everyone says. In the history of censorship, nobody has ever wanted to censor good speech, only speech they claimed was objectively bad, invalid, unreasonable, malicious, or otherwise harmful

It's just that everybody has different definitions of what, actually is bad, harmful, or invalid. It's like the movie theater quote. For example, China's constitution proclaims freedom of speech, yet the government blocks all mention of the Tienanmen Square massacre because it's harmful. It's "Great Firewall of China" is famous for blocking most of the content of the Internet that the government claims harms its citizens.

At least in case of movie theaters, the harm of shouting "fire" is immediate and direct. In all these other cases, the harm is many steps removed. Many want to censor anti-vaxxers, because their speech kills children. But the speech doesn't, the virus does. By extension, those not getting vaccinations may harm people by getting infected and passing the disease on. But the speech itself is many steps removed from this, and there's plenty of opportunity to counter this bad speech with good speech.

Karl Popper's Paradox of Tolerance

This is just a logical fallacy, using different definitions of "tolerance". The word means "putting up with those who disagree with you". The "paradox" comes from allowing people free-speech who want to restrict free-speech.

But people are shifting the definition of "tolerance" to refer to white-supremacists, homophobes, and misogynists. That's also intolerance, of people different than you, but it's not the same intolerance Popper is talking about. It's not a paradox allowing the free-speech of homophobes, because they aren't trying to restrict anybody else's free-speech.

Today's white-supremacists in the United States don't oppose free-speech, quite the opposite. They champion free-speech, and complain the most about restrictions on their speech. Popper's Paradox doesn't apply to them. Sure, the old Nazi's in Germany also restricted free-speech, but that's distinct from their racism, and not what modern neo-Nazi's are championing.

Ironically, the intolerant people Popper refers to in his Paradox are precisely the ones quoting it with the goal of restricting speech. Sure, you may be tolerant in every other respect (foreigners, other races, other religions, gays, etc.), but if you want to censor free-speech, you are intolerant of people who disagree with you. Popper wasn't an advocate of censorship, his paradox wasn't an excuse to censor people. He believed that "diversity of opinions must never be interfered with".

Censorship doesn't apply to private organizations

Free speech rights, as enumerated by the First Amendment, only apply to government. People like to point this out when justifying why private censorship is okay, especially by social media (Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, etc.).

This is confused thinking. Certainly, free speech rights are a government thing, but free speech values apply to non-government cases as well. Our rights derive from underlying values of tolerance and pluralism. The word "censorship" applies both to government and private organizations, because both can impact those values, both can restrict our ability to speak.

Private organizations can moderate content without it being "censorship". On the same page where Wikipedia states that it won't censor even "exceedingly objectionable/offensive" content, it also says:
Wikipedia is free and open, but restricts both freedom and openness where they interfere with creating an encyclopedia. 
In other words, it will delete content that doesn't fit it's goals of creating an encyclopedia, but won't delete good encyclopedic content just because it's objectionable. The first isn't censorship, the second is. It's not "censorship" when the private organization is trying to meet its goals, whatever they are. It's "censorship" when outsiders pressure/coerce the organization into removing content they object to that otherwise meets the organization's goals.

Another way of describing the difference is the recent demonetization of Steven Crowder's channel by YouTube. People claim YouTube should've acted earlier, but didn't because they are greedy. This argument demonstrates their intolerance. They aren't arguing that YouTube should remove content in order to achieve it's goals of making money. They are arguing that YouTube should remove content they object to, despite hurting the goal of making money. The first wouldn't be censorship, the second most definitely is.

So let's say you are a podcaster. Certainly, don't invite somebody like Crowder on your show, for whatever reason you want. That's not censorship. Let's say you do invite him on your show, and then people complain. That's also not censorship, because people should speak out against things they don't like. But now let's say that people pressure/coerce you into removing Crowder, who aren't listeners to your show anyway, just because they don't want anybody to hear what Crowder has to say. That's censorship.

That's what happened recently with Mark Hurd, a congressman from Texas who has sponsored cybersecurity legislation, who was invited to speak at Black Hat, a cybersecurity conference. Many people who disliked his non-cybersecurity politics objected and pressured Black Hat into dis-inviting him. That's censorship. It's one side who refuse to tolerate a politician of the opposing side.

All these arguments about public vs. private censorship are repeats of those made for decades. You can see them here in this TV show (WKRP in Cincinati) about Christian groups trying to censor obscene song lyrics, which was a big thing in the 1980s.

Twitter blocks and free speech

The previous parts are old memes. There's a new meme, that somehow Twitter "blocks" are related to free-speech.

That's nonsense. If I block you on Twitter, then the only speech I'm preventing you from seeing is my own. It also prevents me from seeing some (but not all) stuff you post, but again, the only one affected by this block is me. It doesn't stop others from seeing your content. Censorship is about stopping others from hearing speech that I object to. If there's no others involved, it's not censorship. In particular, while you are free to speak anything you want, I'm likewise free to ignore you.

Sure, there are separate concerns when the President simultaneously uses his Twitter account for official business and also blocks people. That's a can of worms that I don't want to get into. But it doesn't apply to us individuals.


The pro-censorship arguments people are making today are the same arguments people have been making for thousands of years, such as when ancient Rome had the office of "censor" who (among other duties) was tasked with restricting harmful speech. Those arguing for censorship of speech they don't like believe that somehow their arguments are different. They aren't. It's the same bankrupt memes made over and over.


Unknown said...

Real question I've thought about a lot lately, especially with respect to "But this speech is harmful or invalid": it's actually illegal in Germany to be a Nazi. To use Nazi symbols. To post Nazi propaganda. Even publishing "Mein Kampf" wasn't done from 1945 until 2016. It's in their constitution, and it's about the least controversial thing in this entire world: the Germans do not accept Nazis, period, stop, that's it. I asked some German coworkers about this and it's like Voldemort's name in Harry Potter - these are Gen X Germans, and I might as well have spit on them. They were floored I would ask that question; Nazis are just evil.

So given that, is "But this speech is harmful or invalid" actually what you say it is? Does Germany suffer because you can't be a Nazi? I accept in America the Government cannot do what the German constitution requires. But if Twitter/Google/Facebook chose to adopt "the constitution of Germany" in the US (like, uh, they do in Germany!) would this in fact be such a slippery slope as to be impossible, like you state? The Germans don't need "good speech" to crowd out the "bad Nazi speech." Because "bad nazi speech is just, well, bad. It's not slippery in Germany, and it's not even controversial. Twitter can't allow Nazis in Germany, so why in US? And why is that such a hard question to ponder, when we can actually see how it works "in the real work" in Germany?

I know Godwin's law, I know the first amendment. But I also see others in the world accept Nazis are bad, and I don't quite understand why a social media company that, e.g., adopted German law here is making the world a worse place.

ThingFish said...

I've not got your belief in the good faith of the alt-right/conservatives that are whining about being "censored" today. I see them asking not for free speech, but for more conservative opinion affirmative action.

Market forces are making twitter, youtube, etc "demonetize" a bunch of conservatives who have had easy, affirmative-action type access to mainstream media for years. Newspapers had resident conservative columnists or editors for years. Some or all still do, like Marc Thiessen at the WaPo, now that Jennifer Rubin isn't considered a conservative, or Ross Douthat or Bret Stephens at the NYT. In the early to mid 80s, the US government relaxed rules about media outlet consolidation, and got rid of the Fairness Doctrine, because why should an aristocrat that owns the city's newspaper and most of the radio stations have to pay to promulgate non-royalist opinions he doesn't agree with? The paper and the radio stations are his property. Liberal opinions all but disappeared, but conservative opinions got a boost. Same thing today: it's Youtube or Twitter's property, they can do with it as they please, as market forces or the will of the owners allow. Demonetizing alt-right dolts that offend the giant bulk of their customers (who may just be advertisers, not ordinary people) is quit all right from a property rights standpoint, which I believe is where we're at in the USA.

Why are we going to change our national position on property rights when conservatives whine about not having access to national media, when we didn't do the same when liberals whined about pretty much the exact same situation, but different corporations? This looks deeply suspicious, like changing the rules just for one set of players.

Greg Nation said...

I think I understand your point, but a few pedantic things for clarification:

"But now let's say that people pressure/coerce you into removing Crowder, who aren't listeners to your show anyway, just because they don't want anybody to hear what Crowder has to say. That's censorship."

Whether they are or aren't "listeners to your show anyway" is irrelevant.

Second point would be that's it's only censorship if you follow through with removal of Crowder from the show.